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Officials Plan to Eliminate 170,000 Canada Geese in New York

It’s a doomsday plan for New York’s geese.

A nine-page report put together by a variety of national, state and city agencies shows that officials hope to eventually reduce the number of Canada geese in New York to 85,000 from 250,000.

That means that roughly 170,000 geese — two-thirds of the state’s population — would be eliminated, whether through gassing by the authorities, hunting or birth control.

The nearly 400 geese gassed to death this month after being rounded up in Prospect Park in Brooklyn — as well as an unknown number of other geese killed in New York City in recent weeks — were but a small part of the ambitious overall goal outlined in the document, which was obtained by City Room.

“The state of New York has close to 250,000 resident Canada geese, which is more than three times the state’s population goal of 85,000,” the report states.

Update, 1:37 a.m., July 24 | The report does not offer details about how the state will reach that number. Rather, it lays out specific plans to eliminate most geese near airports in and around New York City.

The report, according to a high-level official at the United States Department of Agriculture, was a result of five months of meetings between February and June 2009, after the crash of US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River. Canada geese hit both of the jet’s engines, causing the splashdown.

Those attending the meetings that yielded the report included officials from the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation, the National Park Service and key staff members from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s office, the official said.

He said that politicians peppered officials from the Department of Agriculture with questions about the science and asked how many goose strikes had occurred and the danger they posed. They learned that there have been 78 Canada goose strikes over 10 years in New York, and that those strikes caused more than $2.2 million in aircraft damage.

The plan was written with the approval of everyone at that table, the official said, including this paragraph:

“The captured geese are placed alive in commercial turkey crates. The geese would be brought to a secure location and euthanized with methods approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association. Euthanized geese would be buried.”
 

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How about butchering them and using the meat wisely. selling/ foodshelves etc....... :roll:
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How about butchering them and using the meat wisely. selling/ foodshelves etc....... :roll:
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dude...you would NOT want to eat anything that came out of the rivers and harbors around NYC...nastiest water and most contaminated water i've ever seen. i lived there for two years right by la guardia airport (which is the one with the worst problem) they will be much safer as fertilizer than food. geese are a big problem in the state everywhere. i can hunt them on and around my fiancee's grandparents house which is in the south zone (5 birds a day regular season, 8 early season, 5 birds a day in the march season). i haven't had the chance to take advantage of it yet, but i am working hard on getting to know people out there. from what i've been told from farmers, deer hunters and locals out there...field hunters are few and far between out there in that area. not so much in other parts of the state, but if anyone wants to make a trip out there someday I'm game!
 

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dude...you would NOT want to eat anything that came out of the rivers and harbors around NYC...nastiest water and most contaminated water i've ever seen. i lived there for two years right by la guardia airport (which is the one with the worst problem) they will be much safer as fertilizer than food. geese are a big problem in the state everywhere. i can hunt them on and around my fiancee's grandparents house which is in the south zone (5 birds a day regular season, 8 early season, 5 birds a day in the march season). i haven't had the chance to take advantage of it yet, but i am working hard on getting to know people out there. from what i've been told from farmers, deer hunters and locals out there...field hunters are few and far between out there in that area. not so much in other parts of the state, but if anyone wants to make a trip out there someday I'm game!
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Ship em here we'll take em!
Thats what I was thinkin... A guy I work with told me they brought some down from Wis. a few years ago and located them at Otter Creek. Why couldn't they disperse them throughout other states? It would probably cost a hell of a lot less than 10 mill... Our gov't at its best
 

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IAtaxidermist said:
Ship em here we'll take em!
Thats what I was thinkin... A guy I work with told me they brought some down from Wis. a few years ago and located them at Otter Creek. Why couldn't they disperse them throughout other states? It would probably cost a hell of a lot less than 10 mill... Our gov't at its best
I don't know about WI but they definately relocated a bunch of geese from MI to Otter creek.

Go to this link and put in Canada goose banded in Iowa recovered in MI. Then zoom in so you can see both Iowa and Michigan and start clicking on the recovery sites in Michigan then view the banding location. Most of them are from Otter Creek (from like 1999-2001ish) and went right back to MI.

http://www.flyways.us/surveys-and-monitoring/banding-and-marking-programs/bands-across-america
 

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dude...you would NOT want to eat anything that came out of the rivers and harbors around NYC...nastiest water and most contaminated water i've ever seen.
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First Altrocker1 I'm not a dude hence my name Vickieschessies

Then geese migrate all over. Do you think geese all over the states have not consumed water from other contaminated places? When you gas them none of them are usable.
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vickieschessies said:
dude...you would NOT want to eat anything that came out of the rivers and harbors around NYC...nastiest water and most contaminated water i've ever seen.
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First Altrocker1 I'm not a dude hence my name Vickieschessies

Then geese migrate all over. Do you think geese all over the states have not consumed water from other contaminated places? When you gas them none of them are usable.
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i apologize...dude wasn't meant in reference to you...more like an expression like "woah" or "no way"....

and yes geese come from contaminated water all over, but there are strong health advisories against eating geese in these harbors, and since the harbors never freeze...they never leave. would it be great if they would open up hunting in these areas...sure, but that will never happen. there is certainly enough room in that part of the sound to safely hunt geese, but since you have to sell your first born child to have a gun in the city. i would seriously worry about relocating these geese, just based on the numbers that die of disease or unknown causes every day. i'm all about finding a way to move geese from urban areas to rural areas, or finding ways to let hunters help with nuisance problems...but the geese there stay there and very few migrants actually show up in this area. most of the migrants head further out onto long island where the water is much safer and where hunting is allowed. i would never say i agree with gassing a bunch of geese, but as someone who flies in and out of la guardia 6-10 times a year, i'd be lying if i said i never worried about my plane being taken down by a goose
 
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