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Old 04-22-2019, 10:19 AM   #1
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Well letís see if this generates a few posts.

I need some assistance IDing this guy. Iím far from an expert on these and can honestly say I am uncertain what it is. I figure someone on here probably knows. For a bit of background, I have personally seen yellow bellied watersnakes, copperheads, spectacled kingsnakes, and of course garter snakes. But this is the first one like this. Any ideas?
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:07 PM   #2
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Well letís see if this generates a few posts.

I need some assistance IDing this guy. Iím far from an expert on these and can honestly say I am uncertain what it is. I figure someone on here probably knows. For a bit of background, I have personally seen yellow bellied watersnakes, copperheads, spectacled kingsnakes, and of course garter snakes. But this is the first one like this. Any ideas?
Hard to tell on my phone but head shape kinda looks like a rattler... I'm assuming it is not or you would have mentioned the rattle. Perhaps an eastern hognose? I think they are the darker ones and have a triangle head. I'm not a snake expert so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.
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It kinda looks like a cotton mouth.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:21 AM   #4
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I forgot to mention that I didnít take the picture, a neighbor did. My first thought was rattle snake too but I donít see any rattles and the neighbor said no. And my thoughts on cotton mouth are ... itís a bit out of the range for where they should be... but I donít know as I havenít seen many of those (other than in displays). Iíve handled a couple hog nosed snakes before. This one doesnít look like the ones Iíve handled but??? Maybe a different sub-species? The rest of the snakes I named above, I have personally seen on property next to where this one was.

Anyone else got an opinion? Iíd love to hear it.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:42 AM   #5
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It does kind of look like a cottonmouth but I don't think there have been any recorded in Iowa.
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Pine snake and yes I have caught one by Sioux City. They look like rattle snake.
I donít know why I use to like catching snakes one I was a Kid, use to to down to Railroad Tracks and turn over large rocks to find them in the summer.
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Im still going to say hog nose .
Definitely dont trust me as im scared to death of snakes.
I wish them no harm, but when i know ones around i go the other quickly.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:28 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the replies. The picture was taken in North Central MO. There always seems to be a lot of snakes around that property. At least I always seem to find 1/2 doz or more each day I am there. I generally try to leave them alone and they leave me alone. But I am also interested in knowing what I am seeing. Anyway thanks again to everyone so far and if anyone else has an idea Iíd love to hear it.
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Pretty sure it's a Northern Water Snake. There are several color variations, but the shape of the head and the short, stocky body is indicative of the species.
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https://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-n...ts/snake-factshttps://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-n...ts/snake-facts
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:07 PM   #11
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Thanks again folks.

Camohead - I was sort of leaning toward northern water snake too. I notice a picture in the MDC site (same as the link Oldtimer posted) that looked pretty similar. I donít have any experience with those though so itís nice to hear someone else say it too.

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Pine Snake scared the S*** out of my Dad when I was young. Today I would not pick one up.
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This was behind my sisters house. Looks like the same breed.

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