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Old 03-30-2019, 03:46 PM   #1
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-Dear Senator Tony Bisignano

I am writing today to oppose SF521 for these very specific reasons below however I will request that your legislative effort focus on the creation of an Urban Goose Hunting program that can be implemented within city limits or municipalities that prohibit hunting due to city limit restrictions or laws.

1 . We oppose your Bill simply for the fact that the geese you wish to target for control will Not be the ones negatively impacted. Your Bill will force Refuge areas around state public lands subject to extremely high harvest rates of geese you are not effected by in your argument. This action would greatly negatively impact Iowa's Goose seasons and bag limits in the future. It will have negative economic implications statewide and just as costly to correct if even possible after the damage has already been done. Your Bill would in fact increase the harvest of geese but will Not impact the very geese you seek to control. The fact is if you can't hunt them urban geese and kill them, you are not going to change the dynamics of the problem or the population. Your Bill has the greatest potential to force rural goose populations into your Urban Goose problem areas as they are quick to figure out where they are not getting shot at.

We suggest that your legislative efforts truly focus on the real problem in order to solve and control the problem you have with Iowa Urban Goose Populations. You should seek to develop an Urban Goose Hunting program that can be implemented in these hot areas where huge acres of farm ground can be used to hunt these problem geese with in said city limits. Every problem area we have in Iowa has thousands of acres of AG fields where goose hunting by traditional measures can be done but by city law or municipality laws is prohibited by city limit regulations. Designated areas can be set up, distances from dwellings can be developed and goose hunting can be done safely. Areas set up with in the city limits can be put up at city hall or the law enforcement agency responsible for enforcement of the area. Designated blind post can be put in place and each have a number. Those goose hunters who would hunt those birds would then be required to go to city hall or the municipality law enforcement office to sign into the designated area so when municipality law receives a phone call from a potentially concerned citizen they can explain what is going on and confirm that there is in fact a goose hunter in that area or blind by the sign in sheet or permit issued. This eliminates a lot of problems around the board and yet focuses the right effort o the right goose population you seek to control. You should focus your efforts on getting all Urban Community leaders with Urban goose population problems to form a committee to develop this Urban Goose Hunting program. If you also invite these areas goose hunters to participate in this development , they can give the committee valuable information as to where the population can be effectively targeted throughout the entire Iowa goose season. Urban Goose hunters please send Tony this letter in response to his SF521 proposal. Its bad for the future of Iowa Goose Hunting Period.

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Bill, if this passes would it allow me to hunt fields that are in a goose refuge now? We have a LOT of ground locked up in goose refuge in this area
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Bill, if this passes would it allow me to hunt fields that are in a goose refuge now? We have a LOT of ground locked up in goose refuge in this area
Yes it would.
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Yes it would.
Fantastic there are some areas that need burned to the ground. Hope this passes the refuges have gotten out of hand. Can't wait to hunt my families own land.
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bp though the refuge is just south of Sioux City it is also just south of the airport yes? The pressure that would come would force these birds in direct conflict with that airport. You ca bet your ass on it. What did the birds over at crystal cove figure out after getting their ass burnt? Hey lets go sit on the soccer fields along the river on the north end of approach. Yeah be careful what you boys wish for. What you think will happen sometimes is far more than you think and prove to be more damaging in the long term effects of bag stability, a season stability.
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bp though the refuge is just south of Sioux City it is also just south of the airport yes? The pressure that would come would force these birds in direct conflict with that airport. You ca bet your ass on it. What did the birds over at crystal cove figure out after getting their ass burnt? Hey lets go sit on the soccer fields along the river on the north end of approach. Yeah be careful what you boys wish for. What you think will happen sometimes is far more than you think and prove to be more damaging in the long term effects of bag stability, a season stability.
There are some places where the closed goose areas are necessary...there are however, far more places where losing them won't really make a difference. This does not eliminate refuges, it only opens up the option to allow goose hunting on private property. Not all farmers will allow it...and just like everywhere else, the geese will figure out where they can be without getting blasted at. There used to be one at Red Rock...there hasn't been for several years and it hasn't changed the goose population around there. In fact there are more now then there were back then.
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I normally agree with a lot things you write on here Featherhead but not this one. Goose refuges of this size should not exist on someone’s private ground, especially in the area where you and I live and hunt; an area where the “refuge” is thousands upon thousands of acres of private agricultural fields. I’m all about refuges within reason but it’s slightly out of hand in many areas like Des Moines, Spencer and here in a vast majority of Monona and Woodbury counties. I’m all about conservation but not to the point where goose hunters are severely handicapped when they hunt around a refuge that’s measured in square miles, where some bureaucrat in office is dictating the legal hunting and harvesting of migratory Canadian geese on private property. Between the NWR and all of the ground in and around Badger Lake, the geese will still have a hell of a lot of ground to rest and feed in the ag fields. It will spread them out a bit more and make them less predictable but they’ll still migrate through here, on their way down to getting shot at in southern iowa, Missouri, and south of that.
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