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Old 07-22-2017, 04:53 PM   #14
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Not sure why but Iowa has become a fly over state. Just compare the refuge counts back 20+ years ago, if you remembered, and compare. Places like Big Marsh, Sweet Marsh, Otter creek had numbers of 100K at peak some years but not near that any more. Even places like Riverton and Forney were great places just visit but now look at the counts the DNR puts out. Way down. I use to marvel at the numbers going out to feed late in the evening over west. Kept me driving from DM and Marshalltown and before that Waterloo mainly to Forney Lake. Now we hardly get decent snow goose numbers. And now all we hear or see published is the positive, positive, loads of ducks, etc. and go buy your license and spend lots of money on equipment. Better and better decoys and shells. Sure!! We hunters are the suckers. And it is not just Iowa. Talk to the Arkansas hunters.
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I told you Howard. Not everything that has transpired over the last 100 years out on the Iowa landscape, MN or Wisconsin landscape plays out in real time as we seem to think it would. Sometimes mother nature takes her time in showing the extent of said changes and during that slow process the resources to react slowly until they bottom out.

I kind of relate my argument points to the late article on the tale of 2 duck factories. 1 over compensated for the lack of the other never really exposing the true extent of region 2s less than marginal production efforts. Its the same thing just on a scale that can be applied to our known 5 duck production regions here within the US PPR / PPJV regions.

50 60 years ago we still had a substantial number of temporal wetlands or seasonal wetlands out on the Iowa landscape. As Agricultural technology progressed that last of them had been wiped off the map by ditch, contour discking or by drain tile. Had we lost the majority of our wetlands by 1920's yes but we had a much larger habitat fragmented landscape. Over time those areas fell to the mentality of drainage. Not much on the ground in Iowa these days to disburse or distribute migratory populations in Iowa let alone hold them long enough.

Even with that said, with so much loss and the sheer cost of restoration, as a whole we as duck hunters should never take a knee or bow to defeat. It has never been so much about the now as most of us tend to believe but its about the future. Do we surrender or do we fight, do we move the needle forward and leave the question of future duck hunters the What If they Done that 50 years ago? I believe as crazy as the cost of restoration might be it is imperative to our waterfowling heritage and the security of it. It is priceless, and no matter the cost, no matter the struggles, the battles it is a fight that must be waged.

Can you imagine not dreaming about a future or having the ability to aspire to be something more? Can you imagine not having goals? What if we all woke up on the same day to be nothing more than who we are? Not much to look forward to is it?
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Good points Bill and I never, never advocate giving up. It is that we just don't have the forces to push forward our points. Example, how did that nasty rule get on the book that the DNR can't acquire land unless it adjacent to an existing state land? How did they sneak that by all we waterfowlers on this site. Now we got a mess going because of kyack usage by the general public on waterfowling water. And we can't keep them out. When I use to hunt the points in Big Creek lake near DM, the canoe people use to paddle right thru my decoys. It has got to be much worse these days.
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That rule or as they would call it a guide line was done by Administration more or less. How many guidelines does the IDNR publish every month as a means to make the public aware of exactly what they are doing with in its walls? I know I dont see any published changes on a monthly basis unless I am looking at something specific and investigate why or what is causing limitations or no action.
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