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Old 05-08-2017, 08:28 PM   #1
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Iowa Department of Natural Resources Hi Bill, in regard to your concern about the downed timber along the Missouri River:

The amount of standing dead and downed timber left from the 2011 flood has made prescribed fire on the Missouri River bottom lands a challenge. As wildlife managers develop long-term plans for these areas, the consequences of the flood are a great consideration. For example, the DNR is planning to work on a fuel project with the Bureau of Indian Affairs Winnebago Agency at the Blackbird Bend area to reduce the amount of dead and down material so fire can be returned to the landscape. We also recognize the 2011 flood resulted in several areas of excellent river forest regeneration such as cottonwoods, and it is important to exclude fire in the areas where regeneration is occurring. Future management plans also recognize wildlife habitat benefits to having some standing dead snags and downed timber.

If you would like to speak with one of our land managers about a specific area, they would be happy to discuss their long-term management plans. Just let us know your contact information, and we can connect you! Thanks again Bill!


If you guys have any thoughts to the conditions of the Mo. River Bottoms after the flood of 2011 please chime in and let the bottom fall out on your complaint list. Looking to gain some feedback from those who hunt down in the Mo. River bottoms be it deer turkey or any other. F/H/D
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Iowa Department of Natural Resources Hi Bill, in regard to your concern about the downed timber along the Missouri River:

The amount of standing dead and downed timber left from the 2011 flood has made prescribed fire on the Missouri River bottom lands a challenge. As wildlife managers develop long-term plans for these areas, the consequences of the flood are a great consideration. For example, the DNR is planning to work on a fuel project with the Bureau of Indian Affairs Winnebago Agency at the Blackbird Bend area to reduce the amount of dead and down material so fire can be returned to the landscape. We also recognize the 2011 flood resulted in several areas of excellent river forest regeneration such as cottonwoods, and it is important to exclude fire in the areas where regeneration is occurring. Future management plans also recognize wildlife habitat benefits to having some standing dead snags and downed timber.

If you would like to speak with one of our land managers about a specific area, they would be happy to discuss their long-term management plans. Just let us know your contact information, and we can connect you! Thanks again Bill!


If you guys have any thoughts to the conditions of the Mo. River Bottoms after the flood of 2011 please chime in and let the bottom fall out on your complaint list. Looking to gain some feedback from those who hunt down in the Mo. River bottoms be it deer turkey or any other. F/H/D

Any idea when they plan on doing a prescribed burn?
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If you would like to speak with one of our land managers about a specific area, they would be happy to discuss their long-term management plans. Just let us know your contact information, and we can connect you! Thanks again Bill!
WOW!!!!last time I was in DES MOINES,your contact info was inscribed on the inside of every Wallece Building employees eyelids
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a good friend of mine did the seeding of most of those mitigation areas south of hwy 183.his view of the DNRs thoughts of the areas is{no work no money spent let mother nature do what she will}..bad dog
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Kevin I will post up any and all information as I get it. My time is limited this time of year but I will slowly get it for you guys for sure.

My perspective to the subject matter, is I am pissed off on multiple levels for multiple reasons when it comes to management , opportunities and habitat.

Bad-dogs perspective is about as close to reality as you will get in my opinion and the facts of that can be found by simply stepping out of your truck and try to venture out into the shit.

I do like to remind folks from time to time what biodiversity was like and that the Cottonwood today is what all is left. Most of the hardwoods had been logged out prior to channelization of the Mo. River. Most of the willows cut out as well for the very project itself. Onething some have forgotten mother nature just didn't use fire to clean up a mess but she also applied water to kill softwoods or keep them from over taking an area. Much of this you could have found in the rivers meander belt. However with that removed from a natural control tool much of the cluster ----k you see today down there on the bottoms is of 60 plus years worth and who gives a shit attitude and thus a strong biodiversity of trees is Not what you will find or open backwaters or shallow bays void of any softwoods.

I point that out in certain section simply looking on the NE side of the river that those who cut down our hard woods couldn't cut down on the bluff side of the river in NE. Looking into Iowa from those reaches you will not find a hardwood on our side of the river. Observations.
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letting mother nature do its thing is no longer applicable i dont think. Iowa's "mother" nature is like on its 4th stepmom because dad cannot get his S*** together
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letting mother nature do its thing is no longer applicable i dont think. Iowa's "mother" nature is like on its 4th stepmom because dad cannot get his S*** together
Spot on. Mother Nature wouldn't suppress fire the way man has, it has thrown the whole ecosystem out of balance
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Spot on. Mother Nature wouldn't suppress fire the way man has, it has thrown the whole ecosystem out of balance
Exactly and people wonder why these fires in various places are as bad as they are. There is so much effort to keep fire out that once it happens its uncontrollable due to all the fuel.
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If I wouldn't get in huge trouble I'd light this whole damn botton on fire. From highway 2 south of Hamburg. Not to mention 99%of state ground..
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If I wouldn't get in huge trouble I'd light this whole damn botton on fire. From highway 2 south of Hamburg. Not to mention 99%of state ground..
go ahead..I will go to the USDA office and get a "mother may I note" too cover for you.bad dog
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If I wouldn't get in huge trouble I'd light this whole damn botton on fire. From highway 2 south of Hamburg. Not to mention 99%of state ground..
Just tell them you did not mean too and you are sorry and I will have Bad Dog give you a time out!
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