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Old 01-15-2017, 08:26 AM   #1
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Default 2017-2018 Waterfowl Season / Zone Proposal to the NRC 18 January





It is #21 on the NRC 18 January Agenda …………….

“Waterfowl and Coot Hunting Seasons” – DNR’S Notice of Intended Action (I will NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY F’NERRORS here below!) …
GO TO: http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/Natural Resource Commission/2017-01-18 NRC ai.pdf?ver=2017-01-12-142954-433 FOR THE WHOLE DNR RECOMMENDATION AND ALL THE OTHER FINE PRINT … … WARNING: IT IS QUITE LENGTHY AND DETAILED … THIS BELOW IS THE “MYASS EXPURGEGATED VERSION” AND SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION!
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… fourth year of the experimental special September teal season; the teal season in the North and South
zones has been reduced to 9 days … while the Missouri River Zone remains at 16.

2017-2018 MIGRATORY GAME BIRD SEASONS
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::NORTH ZONE :::::::::: SOUTH ZONE ::::::::::::::: MO RIVER ZONE
Special September Teal :: 09/02/17 - 09/10/17 :::::::: 09/02/17 - 09/10/17 :::::::: 09/02/17 - 09/17/17

Ducks, ’Gansers & Coots :: 09/23/17 - 10/01/17 :::::::: 09/30/17 - 10/04/17 :::::::: 10/07/17 – 10/08/17
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 10/14/17 - 12/03/17 :::::::: 10/21/17 - 12/14/17 :::::::: 10/21/17 – 12/17/17

Youth W’fowl Hunt Days :: 09/16/17 - 09/17/17 :::::::: 09/23/17 - 09/24/17 :::::::: 09/30/17 - 10/01/17

Dark geese ::::::::::::::::09/23/17 - 10/08/17 :::::::: 09/30/17 - 10/08/17 :::::::: 10/07/17 - 10/15/17
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::10/14/17 - 01/01/18 :::::::: 10/21/17 - 01/15/18 :::::::: 10/21/17 - 01/15/18

Light Geese :::::::::::::::09/23/17 - 10/08/17 :::::::: 09/30/17 - 10/18/17 :::::::: 10/07/17 – 10/15/17
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::10/14/17 - 01/12/18 :::::::: 10/21/17 - 01/24/18 :::::::: 10/21/17 – 01/24/18


Light Geese Conservation Order STATEWIDE 01/25/18 – 04/15/18

The proposed rule also ensures the seasons open on different weekends to “maximize hunter opportunity” [sure] and continues for a fourth year an experimental [wonder when it will no longer be “experimental”?] special September teal season. The continuation of the special teal season will not adversely impact teal numbers and will allow Iowa hunters additional days of recreational hunting opportunity during the peak migration period for teal.

The federal regulations will likely authorize up to sixteen days for the special teal season. Last year [SOME] hunters requested, and DNR implemented, a two-week period of calm and hunter inactivity between the end of the teal and the start of the regular duck seasons. The proposed rule repeats this again for the 2017-2018 season.

Three other changes are proposed …

DUCK Zone boundaries. The following zone boundaries apply in the time frames noted:

For the 2017-2021 seasons, the north duck hunting zone is that part of Iowa north of a line
beginning on the South Dakota-Iowa border at Interstate 29, southeast along Interstate 29 to State
Highway 175, east to State Highway 37, southeast to State Highway 183, northeast to State Highway
141, east to U.S. Highway 30, and along U.S. Highway 30 to the Iowa-Illinois border.

The Missouri River duck hunting zone is that part of Iowa west of Interstate 29 and south to the Iowa-Missouri border. [Once these recommendations are presented to the NRC and presumably approved … will there be a 30 day comment period … or will there be some “maneuvering” as happened 5 years ago? I pray not!]

The south duck hunting zone is the remainder of the state.

Bag limit. Special September teal season: The daily bag limit is 6 teal of any species.

For all ducks: The daily bag limit of ducks is 6, and may include no more than 4 mallards (no more than
2 of which may be females), 2 black ducks, 3 wood ducks, 2 pintails, 1 mottled duck, 2 canvasback, 2
redheads, and 3 scaup. The daily bag limit of mergansers is 5, only 2 of which may be hooded
mergansers.

GOOSE Zone boundaries. The following zone boundaries apply in the time frames noted:

For the 2017-2021 seasons, the north goose hunting zone is that part of Iowa north of a line beginning on the South Dakota-Iowa border at Interstate 29, southeast along Interstate 29 to State Highway 175, east to State Highway 37, southeast to State Highway 183, northeast to State Highway 141, east to U.S. Highway 30, and along U.S. Highway 30 to the Iowa-Illinois border.

The Missouri River goose hunting zone is that part of Iowa west of Interstate 29 and south to the Iowa-Missouri border. [Presume the northern terminus is Highway 20 up by Sioux City and Billville?]

The south goose hunting zone is the remainder of the state.

Bag limit. The daily bag limit for dark geese is 5 and may include no more than 2 Canada geese from
September 23 24 through October 31 and no more than 3 Canada geese from November 1 through the
end of the season. The daily bag limit for light geese is 20.

Light goose conservation order season. Only light geese may be taken under a conservation order from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from January 25, 2018 28, 2017, through April 15, 2018 2017. [Presume the Conservation order bag limit is “no change” … which is ??? – thank you. ]

There shall be no open season for ducks, coots and geese …
-- on the east and west county road running through sections 21 and 22, township 70 north, range 43 west, Fremont County [WTF - OVER???]; IN WATERFOWLER SPEAK, THIS IS THE GRAVEL ROAD THAT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE OF FORNEY LAKE - WHICH MAKES SENSE ... SO WHY NOT SAY IT THAT WAY? !
-- three miles of U.S. Highway 30, located on the south section lines of sections 14, 15,
and 16, township 78 north, range 45 west, Harrison County;
-- on the county roads immediately adjacent to, or through, Union Slough National Wildlife Refuge, Kossuth County; Louisa County Road X61 from the E-W centerline of section 29, township 74 north, range 2 west, on the south, to the point where it crosses Michael Creek in section 6, township 74 north, range 2 west, on the north, and also all roads through or adjacent to sections 7, 18, and 19 of this same township and roads through or adjacent to sections 12 and 13, township 74 north, range 3 west;
-- the levee protecting the Green Island Wildlife Area from the Mississippi River in Jackson County wherever the levee is on property owned by the United States or the state of Iowa;
-- certain dikes at Otter Creek Marsh, Tama County, where posted as such; and the NE¼, section 23, and the N½, section 24, all in township 70 north, range 19 west, Appanoose County, including county roads immediately adjacent thereto;
-- all privately owned lands in the S½, section 30, township 71 north, range 20 west, Lucas County, including the county road immediately adjacent thereto;
-- Cerro Gordo County Road S14 and its right-of-way, between its junction with U.S. Highway 18 and County Road B-35, and portions of Clear Lake and Ventura Marsh, where posted as such in Cerro Gordo County;
-- that portion of Summit Lake located south of State Highway 25 in the west half of the NW¼ of section 2 (22 acres), and the west half of section 3 (100 acres), T72N, R31W in Union County;
-- within 150 feet of the center of the Army Road from New Albin to the boat ramp on the Mississippi River in sections 11 and 12, T100N, R4W, and sections 7 and 8, T100N, R3W, as posted.

Youth hunters must be residents of Iowa as defined in Iowa Code section 483A.1A and less than 16
years old. Each youth hunter must be accompanied by an adult 18 years old or older. The youth hunter
does not need to have a hunting license or stamps. The adult must have a valid hunting license and
habitat stamp if normally required to have them to hunt and a state waterfowl stamp. Only the youth
hunter may shoot ducks, geese and coots. The adult may hunt for any other game birds for which the
season is open. The daily bag and possession limits are the same as for the regular waterfowl seasons.

Dove season. Open season for hunting mourning doves and Eurasian collared-doves shall begin on September 1 and continue for 90 consecutive days. Shooting hours shall be from one-half hour before sunrise to sunset each day. Daily bag limit is 15; possession limit is 45. The entire state is open.

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They've decided to end north seasons earlier next year, thank goodness.

So that's the consensus they came to after the emails that they requested us to send them? Interesting?
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North zone duck ends December 3rd and goose ends January 1st... What a fckn joke. Do people not hunt waterfowl in the north zone past thanksgiving or what?!
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What a joke... glad to see nothing changed
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Thought it was going to be 1 pintail?
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Hi, Im a new member. I hunt NW IA. I am so pissed off about the dates that I've decided to try and get some info from other hunters in the North Zone. I have been to meetings with Orrin and expressed my groups interest in a later season.

In the meeting I attended 100% of the attendees asked for a later season for the North Zone. What struck me was that 100% of the attendees in our group asked for a later season, so I emailed Orrin and asking for any information that he DNR had elicited from other hunters in the North Zone about season dates. My assumption is that if 100% of our meeting wanted later dates then likely most North Zone hunters would also like later dates. After writing to him and this is the response I got:

"I understand your interest in later season dates. The unfortunate reality is that given the federal constraints on migratory bird seasons it is near impossible to select a season that will satisfy all hunters. The Iowa DNR selects season dates and structures that will benefit the greatest number of waterfowl hunters. Stakeholder input is one piece of information that we consider in addition to migration surveys, hunter surveys, hunter harvest and participation surveys. The earliest that we will be able to modify waterfowl hunting zones is for the 2020-2021 season.

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Unfortunately my time is very limited right now, so I am not able to continue the discussion much further. I have noted your interest in late season dates. If you would like a copy of my notes from the fall 2015 listening sessions the appropriate process is to contact DNR legal attorney Ed Tormey ([email protected])."

I am yet to write Mr. Tormey as I think my email will likely find the delete button. So I am posting to find out simply if others in the North Zone on this website would like a later season? Either way I don't care I just wanna know as a "Stakeholder" and in the interest of "Transparency" what the North Zone hunters really want. Thanks I really value your input and hopefully we can get a change.
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Thank goodness I don't bother with going to these meetings and having my voice "heard".

From the sounds of the majority, north zone hunters and duck hunters statewide, the wish was to have later dates. Most of the guys I've talked to that bothered to email also requested to have later dates. Thus, their target audience, the consumer, wants later dates.

What did they do? Move the dates up.
Makes perfect sense.

Goose season used to end around January 10th or 11th, what they hell happened that required that to change. Now we're at New Years day? Good grief.
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If I didn't love the sport as much as I do I'd purpose a strike with them and no body but a license this year that wants latter dates. We would see where the majority of people come in.
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Why do they even bother to ask for opinions when their minds are already made up?
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Why do they even bother to ask for opinions when their minds are already made up?
Not sure they have minds! I am saying they are doing what they are told to by the very higher ups!
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Who thinks DNR would have publicized these 2017 seasons and zone modifications in a genuine effort to keep Iowa's waterfowlers informed?

OR

Would DNR have tried to slip this through the NRC without the Iowa waterfowling community knowing anything about "what is up!"

Come on DNR ... it is about TRUST and trying to slip this in quietly just does not help embody TRUST. SAD ... it is just hard to improve DNR's image when you attempt to slip this in for NRC approval without any community knowledge. A WATERFOWLER LISTSESRVE would go a long way ... things have not really changed ... still a "NO CAN DO" philosophy. HELP!
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Why do they even bother to ask for opinions when their minds are already made up?
A lot of surveys go out and emails sent, I would love to see the results of that posted but I would venture to guess the DNR is trying to keep the majority happy. I could be wrong, I have never seeen numbers in reference to surveys and what people want.
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It appears that the proposed dates for 17/18 are exactly like what we had in 16/17 with changes to the way the calendar falls.

Last year at the NRC meeting, I believe the proposed dates did get tweaked so there is hope that if hunters show up at that meeting, voices will be heard and changes could be made. Migration and weather patterns are changing! Heck, it's going be high 40's here at the end of this week and I've yet to use my snow cover this season

If I was a North Zone hunter, I'd make it a priority to be there because out of the 3 different zones, they are getting screwed the most for Dec days for hunting ducks and Jan days for geese. Hell, this year, the north zone missed out on the biggest migration days as it occurred after their season was closed.


I'd imagine Orrin and staff will have the results from the most recent survey they sent out via the internet and mail if you didn't do it online, at that NRC meeting and unfortunately, it won't be subjective in helping the cause for later season dates I'd imagine.
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