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Old 01-18-2015, 08:35 AM   #1
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what are you experts going to be using this spring. I haven't used an e-caller for the last two years but am back in it this year. Must be some new stuff for consideration. Thanks. Howard
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Snow's on the Prairie, Snow Reaper and Snow Bait are some of the cd's I like to run the most.

There's a few tracks on those that I like the most.

Buddy of mine tried the new 8.0 or whatever it is that Jim Jones sales at prairiewings and wasn't all impressed. A couple of good tracks on it but overall, we found that the background noise wasn't very clear to others that we had.

I've also mixed some track's together as well to give multiply sounds out of one e-caller.
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I downloaded a track from Snows on the Prairie, and downloaded the whole CD of Snowbait.

I have a question.

The Snowbait is loud and clear, while the snows on the prairie track is much softer and less clear. I was wondering if you found this to be the case or perhaps something is wrong with the downloaded track?

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Thanks Camo. I'll look into them. By the way, did you ever figure out the "perfect" setup for speaker placement in the spread? I'm running two elevated horn speakers pointing up at 45% and off to the sides. The 3rd speaker is almost on the ground and in front of me so I can move it toward the flock. And I turn volume down as they get closer. Plus I use a mouth call.
Area I hunt down by DM usually only has migrating flocks of 10 to 50 so I don't need hundreds and hundreds of decoys so I want a recording that isn't that of 5000 geese. I kill my numbers later on with the youngsters and I only use the small flock recording for them.
Just got a goosegetter and it has a flash drive with 5 different calls but I have to set up the speakers and listen to them from a distance to see if I need any of your suggestions. I want to have the capability to play CD's in case I would have trouble with or loose the flash drive unit.
Last year I experimented with just 200 sillosocks and a mouth call and a flag. All I could get was the youngsters late in the spring.
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I downloaded a track from Snows on the Prairie, and downloaded the whole CD of Snowbait.

I have a question.

The Snowbait is loud and clear, while the snows on the prairie track is much softer and less clear. I was wondering if you found this to be the case or perhaps something is wrong with the downloaded track?

Thanks,
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I believe it's how they digitized it or what not as far as the quality of the recording. For audio, the higher the bit rate, the better the sound quality I believe. Majority of mine are 128 but if I'm ripping something, I'll try to pump it up to 192.

Haven't listened to the tracks since last spring Chip, but it seems like Snow Bait has better quality to it.
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In general if I'm running 4 speakers, I'll have my higher power set behind the blinds facing at about a 45 degree angle or straight up towards the birds. The other 2 speakers are in front of the blinds pointed at a much less angle to help point the sound over a much larger area (lengthwise) of the spread.

If I'm running my other unit to make 8 speakers, I'll generally put 4 behind me and 4 infront with 2 of those being further away since I have extra cord.

Since flash drives are cheap now, I'd get yourself a spare one or mp3 player as the sound coming from those 2 will be better then a cd. Heck, I even put the track's on my phone too just incase I forget something or something gets ruined.

I think the biggest thing that has changed how I run my e-callers is when I climbed up a grain bin and had the system set up like I usually do and listened from that height. Since than, I generally run my systems about half the volume as I previously did.
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Between my friend Trapper and I we have 6 different snow goose recordings. We typically run 3-5 ecallers, all on different tracks different volumes etc....

Every year we usually end up playing the Snow on the Prairie 3 and 4 the most. Though the all rossie tracks he found are always playing too.

I am not a fan of SnowBait at all, and I have no idea why.
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I think Tim Grounds made a snow goose CD. Idk where you would go to listen to it. I would like to hear it myself
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I run the same track out of all speakers, that I point starit down wind...If one track doesnt get results I go to another track...But I keepem all the same...Just lern to read the birds...Some days they want all feed track others they want calling track, the next thay want the mix of the two...I give it three flocks befor I change anything, but lern to read the birds, is more important...
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I believe it's how they digitized it or what not as far as the quality of the recording. For audio, the higher the bit rate, the better the sound quality I believe. Majority of mine are 128 but if I'm ripping something, I'll try to pump it up to 192.

Haven't listened to the tracks since last spring Chip, but it seems like Snow Bait has better quality to it.
chances are you are wasting your time upscaling to 192...my guess is most companies mixdown and print tracks at 128 on a cd. i would guess they aren't dropping full quality tracks that are that long online or on a cd or else they would be absolutely gigantic.

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The Snowbait is loud and clear, while the snows on the prairie track is much softer and less clear. I was wondering if you found this to be the case or perhaps something is wrong with the downloaded track?
most likely the original recordings are less clear...you could dump it into garage band or audacity or a better audio program to try to boost levels and use the eq settings to clean it up.

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don't bother...its awful
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I was hoping you would respond to this thread Craig, sound guru.

I believe most of the files I got are 128 like you mentioned so probably doing little to upsample them to 192 but got room on my mp3/cell phone so I just did it.
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You guys are way beyond me. I just play the thing and shoot my 6 geese. My digital knowledge ended with the CD's. New goosegetter has a flash drive and it sounds great and has 5 variations. I'll use my 3 speakers and the mouth call. I have figured a way to get my wooden dowel stakes on the Texas rags into the frozen ground so this afternoon I'm going scouting on the fields I like to hunt Lots of good information from you guys. Thanks.
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I think the biggest thing that has changed how I run my e-callers is when I climbed up a grain bin and had the system set up like I usually do and listened from that height. Since than, I generally run my systems about half the volume as I previously did.
This leads me to the next question...

Do you run them at half the previous volume because the louder volume...

1, Was too loud
2. Was too distorted
3. Was less effective than the lower volume
4. Did not sound natural

or some other reason? Enquiring minds want to know!

Chip
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