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Old 12-12-2015, 05:50 PM   #14
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You can kiss Dec. days goodbye during a 30 day season. Only way you would get any is possibly under one zone three segments which not many want.
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I'll take 4 mallards over two bluewings, two ringbills, a ruddy, and a wigeon every day of the year. But then I fall in the minority of it's not about shooting at every duck in range for me. On a 30 day I'd be fine with a 2 day or 1 week in Oct. Then rest of the days to end at normal ending & hunt the crap out of those last couple weeks.
Majority of my Oct. limits are at least three mallards.
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You can kiss Dec. days goodbye during a 30 day season. Only way you would get any is possibly under one zone three segments which not many want.
I am glad you have all your facts straight and know the outcome of this hypothetical question before it ever even becomes a reality. The true reality is that like it or not as other states push their seasons back later, eventually Iowa will have no choice but to pull its head out of its ass and move the dates later and develop a solid 3rd zone!
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It's not hard to figure if you're aware of harvest numbers, participation numbers, and preference numbers.
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Mallard Creek. some are working on getting that larger 3rd zone implemented so that more can take advantage of it. However for it to get bigger more of the folks in the Gude zone proposal have to show up and engage. Come at them hard and dont let up.

TH ( harvest numbers, participation numbers, and preference numbers )

If the bulk of your hunting days are up front early, its easy to figure out that your harvest numbers would be to. Participation early is roughly the same later. The difference is so small. Preference. Is the Sat & Sun of the 1st segment, Sat & Sun of the 2nd segment and Thanksgiving Weekend. All 3 periods are the most highly used periods in the whole season structure.

In a few cases one could do 2 things in the present south zone to close a little later.

1: Shift 3 of your 1st segment days to the end and close out on a weekend. Weekends are the mostly highly used periods of a duck season.

2: You could make the 1st segment run a full 7 days and shut it down for an easy 2 weeks. This gives those early hunters ample time to harvest those local ducks / Woodies and remanent bluewings. Which make up about 45 to 55% of the early harvest statistics. Most of the numbers are harvested within the 1st 2 days mind you or the bulk anyway. Not only would you pick up some later days but also close on a weekend. Again it highly depends on how they use the split. They can waste it like they have the past 4 years or they can use it as they should and for the reason it was developed in the 1st place.

The above is just my opinion so dont get all sideways.
For all who do have an opinion on this shit, YOU HAD BETTER SHOW UP TO JANUARY'S NRC MEETING THAT WILL DECIDE HOW YOU SPEND THE NEXT 5 YEARS OF YOUR DUCK SEASON.

If you dont, you could be eating a Shit sandwich for the next 5.
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You can kiss Dec. days goodbye during a 30 day season. Only way you would get any is possibly under one zone three segments which not many want.

The above under such restrictive measures is the worst option on the planet.

Those under the restrictive structure within a zone who wish to obtain later days vs early must do so on their own within their zone. Do not put your wishes at the expense of others.

Strait 30 days statewide under a restrictive is what some have tried to do multiple times and we have beat that option down the shithole.

30 days in a North zone, 30 days in a south zone and 30 days in the Mo. River or Larger 3rd zone option, all with different start dates and different split cycles mitigates the negative implications or lost days under a moderate or restrictive structure. Maximizing the most days afield as possible by the use of all 3 zones. In all waterfowlers would obtain the opportunity to have more days afield by using those zones structures to their advantage.

It is the Only reason why a 3 zone option is the best option. It secures our ability to address whatever structure does come to the best of our ability. Flexibility is key.
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The above under such restrictive measures is the worst option on the planet.
No, it's the only way to get early days, mid season days, and late days within your own zone during a restrictive season, thus giving the most ability to 80% of hunters to hunt at least some days during their preferred period.
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No TH your tell me in the zone that I am in how I should waste my opportunity for the sake of your own. Thats what that is. Sorry my man under a restrictive season a statewide structure does not provide the most days afield for all duck hunters. Being that we have Never used our splits for their designed purpose under a 3 zone structure you would in fact by using all 3 zones to your advantage cover every one of the issues you laid out and not at the expense of others.

More days my friend not less.
Even under the federal survey duck hunters nation wide suggested by majority that if such case was to happen what would they rather have, reduced days and lower bag limit or lower bag limit with the most days possible? You can guess what they said right?

Its all about the most days possible under any circumstance.
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Not asking you to do anything for me. Just telling you the only way you will hunt days as late as you would like under a restrictive season. You would gain more from it than I.
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I love early season, but really don't need to start south earlier than Oct 25, as an early season guy Halloween is when we get the first good push. We are wasting days opening as early as we are, it doesn't hurt my hunting because I wrap it up when the marshes freeze. Field hunting and river hunting are too time consuming for me with work and family. But it's wrong we can't accomadate the late season guys when we have a liberal season. The real trick will be as original poster says, when we get restricted where do the days go. Back in the day it was......November.
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I am glad you have all your facts straight and know the outcome of this hypothetical question before it ever even becomes a reality. The true reality is that like it or not as other states push their seasons back later, eventually Iowa will have no choice but to pull its head out of its ass and move the dates later and develop a solid 3rd zone!
What states are going later?

All one has to do is look up the dates back in the early 90's when we had 30 day seasons to find out what the dates are more likely to be. Dec. Days would not exist, be lucky to get turkey weekend on the MO zone. Keep in mind that with a restricted season, teal season would be eliminated or at best a restricted season of 9 days if a miracle kept their numbers up.
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I think the Gude zone would provide a lot of opportunity both now and would be extremely beneficial with a restrictive season. Also think that days in the middle of October are wasted and should be used later.
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You guys keep preaching historically!! Well guess what the migration has changed from it's historical patterns, if you cannot see that i cannot help that you are blind... The Dakota's and hell even northern Mn produce crops they never use to and it is helping keep the birds north longer along with mild fall and winters.. Things are changing and people i guess just have a hard time changing as well!! Since you also want to keep dragging up historical numbers and dates also why dont you mention the remaining wetlands in Iowa represent 1 percent of what was once here, but i am sure that did not change migration habits in the eyes of some when they all went bye bye... Point is things change the birds adapt and so should we!
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